The good thing is surely to discuss and attempt to understand. When the major players disagree then it is not and probably never has been easy to distinguish 'Fact from Fiction' People are hopefully thinking about the underlying issues. I shy away from opinions that are extreme. The quote threegee was from a certain comedian who said (at an Amnesty International Show' 'My father was liberal party candidate for Bavaria and he was up against Herman Goring who was standing on 'Vote for me or I will kill you' so his mother took him down to the river and fashioned a boat out of reeds. From then he was brought up by Wolves. Who taught him to fish and play backgammon ' Oh and you cook the fish gas mark five with a few herbs. Humour is important although some would say not appropriate in a serious topic. I have been pulled up before on another topic.