Alan Edgar (Eggy1948)

Did Wetherspoons open on the 5th September 2011?

From the previous comments on this site it was after 2010 - as that's when people were discussing what was happening to the Red Lion and were Wetherspoons taking over.

There is a web site giving all the Wetherspoons pubs and the dates they opened :- 

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ccaajpa/pubs-spoons.html?fbclid=IwAR2WbwmPN-7TFbLoDRZmBKmEzoGbLSMwHBl_cJTHJfq5kznwhimzYf_-th0

It lists the local pubs as :-

Northumberland: (6)

Ashington: Rohan Kanhai, 1-4 Woodhorn Road, Ashington, Northumberland. (27th October 2000)

Bedlington: Red Lion, Front Street West, Bedlington, Northumberland. (5th September 2011)

Blyth: Wallaw, 14 Union Street, Blyth, Northumberland. (28th April 2014)

Cramlington: John the Clark of Cramlington, Low Main Place, Cramlington, Northumberland. (19th September 2013)

Hexham: Forum, 8-9 Market Place, Hexham, Northumberland. (27th October 2000)

Morpeth: Electrical Wizard, 11 New Market, Morpeth, Northumberland. (5th September 2011)

 

The above list of pubs was posted in response to a question about the local Wetherspoon pubs on the Ashington remembered Facebook group and one member (lives in Alnwick) posted :- 

Simon A Drew The Bedlington date is wrong!

@Bandsman1966 - updated the two photos. Would you add them as new entries into your Netherton Colliery Band album.

Signed - and I voted to stay

Netherton Colliery Brass Band members - c1941

Photo from Susan Hamilton - Facebook sixtownships group. Her Dad No 16 - Bill Hamilton

Ellenor Owen commented :- Looks like it's in the field behind Yard row and infant school must be on the right.

1 hour ago, Canny lass said:

My last post (11.47am) is marked "hidden" and doesn't appear in the time line. Can anybody tell me why?

Nope - in the past I have had a couple of posts that required Admin approval ( @Andy Millne) but can't remeber the word 'hidden'  against them 

Could it be  Mycorrhizae Fung - check this site out @Canny lass :- 

https://www.gardenmyths.com/fungi-wood-chips/

9 hours ago, Canny lass said:

Thanks Vic, HPW, Eggy! I've got a glowing picture of the work now.

Your next starter for 10 is:

What is/was a 'rope boy' (14 years old, 1851).

Just shout out if I'm being a nuisance with all these questions.

Can't find 'Rope boy' - just 'Rope mam' =  A man employed to maintain and extend, splice or install haulage ropes.

Other than HPW -  Geoff Glass & Alan Dickson (Barnton Facebook group) two of the web sites I have  used for pit terms are :-

https://www.healeyhero.co.uk/rescue/glossary/glossary.htm

&

http://www.dmm.org.uk/books/terms_a.htm

Nothing about Rope man or boy in the dmm list.  

NB. the healeyhero site  http://www.healeyhero.co.uk/rescue/glossary/glossary.htm t says :- his site is Glossary of words that are generally specific to the mining industry: Some have a two or three fold meaning, some have gone out of use, some are local to Derbyshire, Leicestershire, South Yorkshire and to Nottinghamshire, and others are general to the British Coalfields.

As there wasn't a reference to Rope boy I looked at Haulage (from the Rope man definition) and it has this :-

Haulage Boy, (1) aged 13 to 18 usually employed lashing or clipping and un-clipping tubs on an engine driven (moving) haulage rope on main roads or pit bottom area.

Haulage boy (2) could also be one say 15 years plus employed getting tubs or jotties of supplies to a face and empties back in panel gates by engine driven haulage rope, or ganging same by a pony. The age of starting work was 13 from 1880s up to 1913, then 14 from 1930s to 1948, 15 up to 1960s, thereafter 16 plus.

Haulage boy (3) generally a young boy 13 to 15 assisting an experienced person doing the above jobs (description sometimes varied pit by pit).

@Andy Millne - @threegee any idea why I can't get the sound on this video - it works fine on Facebook platform?

Ignore the above just worked it out - Doh. If 'delete' was available to the person that made a duff posting I would have deleted this one

The dog is ready for halloween :-

@HIGH PIT WILMA - @Geoff Glass has joined the group

11 hours ago, HIGH PIT WILMA said:

Heh heh! The power of the net again! ....bringing auld pit marra's tigitha again! Thanks Alan,please pass my regards ti Geoff,haven't seen Geoff for a canny few years...last time was when he was at the Chapel at the Half Moon,Stakeford,and he was in the chapel with the organisers of the Russian[?] Butter Mountain distribution team,handing out the free ration of butter to the old and needy folks in the community,and I was seeking the rations for the old neighbours of mine at that time.It might have been in the '80's...I can't remember exactly,but Geoff probably does.When Geoff came to the Aad Pit at Bedlington,from Hauxley Pit,He described the conditions there,and I can vividly remember him being met with scorn from the Aad Pit old-timers,who hadn't seen water get owa the bootlaces...and the reason I remember it well,was because me and my Marra's from Choppington High Pit had met with the same scorn just before Geoff came..so Geoff and me exchanged stories of how rough our pits were!!

"SCORN"= Comments such as....."oh Aye ....heor wi gaan.....wiv hord it aal before...clivvor bugga's...working in three foot o' waata..in a two-foot seam..."...said very sarcastically,from a gathering of the aad pit coalfillers....in answer to THEIR question as "was Choppington as rough as this then?"...as we rested for five minutes on the way inbye..sitting on a wood chock,wi wa byeuts pressed into stone dust four inches deep....the dust was a killer mind,even waaking inbye ye were choking on it in the High MAIN seam.

We just telt them it was a thoosand times rougher at Choppington,cos A] The water teemed in from the roof,there were very few pumps,the water just filled long swalleys,until it overflowed and ran down the inclined roadways ti fill the next swalley...and so on.....!

Some swalley's were 50-100 yards long,and up to your waist...we transport lads travelled through up to a dozen times a shift,in the different roadways in the pit.

B] Because the seam went doon ti less than two feet high,the cuttermen had ti cut thi bottom oot,throughout the face ti mek height for the cutter ti pass through..so ye had airborne dust filling the roadways alang wi roof droppers of waata and ground water aal tigitha...!

C] The Shaft was sunk through sandbanks and musselbeds[fossilised!],and the whole of the seams were driven through nests of geological faults...["Faaalts"..!]..making roof and sides very difficult to control...men got killed or injured every other few weeks and my Father told me it was like that in 1929 when he was a young putter down there!!..[as you know...aged 14 years!]...and the changes for the better came only with rails laid in the Mothergates as well as the Tailgates,when the new Drift doon ti thi Top Busty opened up not lang afore thi pit closed...the waata and bad roof conditions remained the same as the other seams!!

A wonder if Geoff cud relate sum stories from his time doon thi black hole!!A wud luv ti hear from him on wor site,cos aam not on Facebook.

Thanks for posting his pics Alan,he's nivvor changed..just a bit mair matured in the oak..so ti speak!

Passed the above to Geoff - waiting to see what his response is 

10 hours ago, HIGH PIT WILMA said:

If ye cudda been doon Choppington High Pit,or Bates 3/4 seam,or Hauxley,where Geoff Glass came from..[assuming it's the Geoff that came ti thi Aad pit when Hauxley pit closed..]

That's the one HPW - I posted your reply on the Barrington Facebook site and Geoff replied - 'Oh right -  yes I remember him Say hello to him for me please'

9 hours ago, HIGH PIT WILMA said:

 "Scuffler" 

The Gummer's other name was a "Scuffling Bucket",and there were two types.

1] The Worm Gummer

2] The Fling Gummer

If I leave this world tomorrow I will be go contented knowing my life had been enhanced by the Rolley-Way man Scuffling alang wi the Worm & fling Gummer = magic HPW

10 hours ago, rosco said:

Bloody hell....the size of those pit heaps

Then & Now 

And is this the same team as the one above, with 3 trophies?

Rothbury war memorial and URC Church

Can't see any photos that havn't been posted on the Bedlington groups before but it's good to see them all in one display. There is one mistake - the photo of J. EASTON Bedlington bus, 2 mins 31secs into the video, is not in Bedlington, it's Rothbury. You can see the Rothbury war memorial on the left of the photo.

12 hours ago, Vic Patterson said:

Alan, "What is a "rolley way man'? Also 1939". is answering the second question asked by CL, I think the answer Alan gives is for the #1 question scuffler, but I could be wrong! 

 

Rolley - Coal truck.

Rolley way - Haulage road.

Rolley-Way Man - A man whose business it was to attend to the rolley-way and keep it in order. It was also his duty to see that no time was lost in getting the full waggons to the shaft and the empty ones in-bye again.

The above copied from another site that lists 'Pit Terminology' = http://www.healeyhero.co.uk/rescue/glossary/glossary.htm

And Alan Dickson replied with :-  The team that laid and kept the tracks in order down the pit Alan.
And the head rolley-way-man, placed all the men at the various non peace work jobs.

And Geoff Glass replied with :- Aye he worked behind the coal cutting machine.

15 minutes ago, Vic Patterson said:

Alan, "What is a "rolley way man'? Also 1939". is answering the second question asked by CL, I think the answer Alan gives is for the #1 question scuffler, but I could be wrong! 

Your right Vic - Alan Dickson was replying to the Scuffler question - I just copied and pasted the lot. I will ask him what he thinks a 'rolley way man' was

1 hour ago, Vic Patterson said:

Canny lass, I found this in the" Durham mining museum- mining occupations". I'm sure HPW will have a better explanation ! also describe a "scuffler"

A man whose business it is to attend to the rolley-way and keep it in order. It is also his duty to keep away the work, and see that no time is lost in getting the full waggons to the shaft and the empty ones in-bye again. His wages are about 2s. 9d. for 8 hours, or 3s. 4d. if he stands 12 hours (1849).

 

@Vic Patterson - I copied @Canny lass's question + the info you found on the DMM site to Alan Dickson of the Facebook group  Barrington, Barnt' n  memories and stuff!! and he replied :- Alan , that's a thoosand miles wrong, 
A scuffler followed the old fashioned cutting machine up the coal face and filled away the carvings, that very small cut coal from under the cut to improve the shots that broke the coal up. My very first peace work job at Bed A pit.

Naturally I haven't got a clue - just copied and pasted the questions and reply.

8 hours ago, Alex said:

 

Hi, i have just stumbled across this forum online, we are the family of Jack Antonino he is the man in the white coat and his grandson David is the little boy in the horse and cart with him, to this day we have carried on Jack’s legacy in the ice cream trade with our ice cream vans that have covered Bedlington and Blyth for decades as well as our very own ice cream parlour in the heart of Blyth in memory of Jacks arrival in the UK back in 1906 making it 110 years when we opened the shop. 

 

Thanks for the info @Alex. We believe the photos were taken in Doctor Terrace, bedlington - here are a couple of slightly clearer images of Jack, and grandson David, have been posted on a couple of the  Bedlington Facebook groups :- 

Alex Wallace posted on Facebook on the 17th September :-  East Bedlington Parish Council have determined to support the very popular Live Music Festival held at Gallagher Park, subject to funding for the next 3 years but we need to change the name. Please help by clicking the link and voting by 12 noon Wednesday 26th September.

Today he followed up with :-  It was announced this evening with over 1,000 voting, more than 3-1 for it to be rebranded as Gallagher Park Live. Northumberland will have to fit in somewhere to get it onto social media. The chair informed those present Northumberland county Council were no longer involved and 1 of the 4 tendering for the event held the name so we were unable to continue for 2 legitimate reasons. In addition -an exclusive- put the date in your diary Saturday 27th July 2019. It’s on!

Remaining names remembered by @Reedy's dad :- 

11 minutes ago, Andy Millne said:

Perhaps we should start another photo appeal and ask people to list any specific places or people of interest.

Worth a try but I think it will always be difficult to get the Facebook members to join, and take part, as they can still browse all the Gallery images without joining. What if the Gallery was members only but there was a topic listing all the albums in the gallery?