Something i'm wondering: I know we need it etc, but i'm still wondering: if someone turned round today and said, Right. I own this land, so anyone who wants a bit of it needs to pay me for the privilidge. Also, since i own this land, every penny you earn, i want a percentage of. then, when you spend what you have left, i want some of that too, then what you save, i want some of, when you die, and give it to your siblings, i want some more of it. i want some for driving on my roads, i want more when you smoke or drink alcohol and if you fill up your car, i want a large chunk of what you pay the garage. Because you live in a nice house, i want you to pay me more than someone who lives in a crappy house, when you watch tv, i want more money and if your going for a crap, i want more (even if you dont go for a crap, i still want it coz i have supplied the means for you to have one) Since you live in a certain area, i'm going to give back some of this money you paid me, to keep the area nice, lets say £1000. £500 will go to pay for someone to decide what needs to be done, £200 to someone to agree or disagree and £200 on planning permission. Oh, and i want some of that money back, in tax. If you dont pay me, i'll lock you in a room, paid for by people who do pay me. What would we say to these people? if they tried it today? as i said, i know we might need it, but come on! their has to be an easier way!